Why are men surprised violence against women is far more serious?
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Men commit far more violence against women than the other way around. Men are far physically stronger than women. A hit from a woman can barely cause any damage while a hit from a man could seriously hurt a woman. That’s why that whole "don’t hit girls" thing came from and that’s why man on woman violence is taken more seriously than woman on man violence. Its really not that hard to figure out.
women engage in domestic violence about the same rate as men. women initiate or incite violence at a far greater rate than men. lesbian couples have much higher domestic violence rates than either straight hetero couples or gay men couples.
there is a huge double standard on this topic that should be debunked. if a guy is a total jerk, an abusive, insulting, nagging, bickering, argumentative, alcholic, combative, etc.. and behaves that way around other guys… it is fairly certain he will get his butt kicked eventually.. in fact, most guys learn this lesson in childhood, and don’t behave that way as adults.. unless they are puke drunk, which is why puke drunk guys often get thier butts kicked..
when a woman is a total jerk, an abusive, insulting, nagging, bickering, argumentative, alcholic, combative, etc…. she automatically is a poor victem of domestic violence by some terrible man???
after the disgusting experience of encountering abusive, stinking, loudmouth feminists… I am amazed that these women are still alive, that they have gone thru life with this attitude and have not come across someone who can not restrain themself under thier abusive combative attacks.. or that they don’t get thier butt kicked regularly.. it really is not logical that they even exist..
yeah, I learned about the ‘don’t hit girls’ thing as a child, but when I became a man, I put away my childish things…
this is what I learned from feminists. now I laugh at it when I see in on TV, and I now truely clearly understand why many women get beaten, .. mostly because they caused it.
yeah, I am surprised, mostly surprised that few people have the balls to tell the truth about domestic violence..
December 31st, 2009 at 9:09 am
we feminists made sure that men be mocked when they file a DV complaint so that they will be disheartened to report. we feminists are successful in that. many men who are victims of DV are no longer able to file a complaint because some of them are dead. ain’t we feminists good at defending womyn? I SAY YES WE ARE!
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December 31st, 2009 at 9:41 am
why do women keep pushing men into a situation where they may get hit? can’t they see the signs?
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December 31st, 2009 at 10:01 am
awww, good for you honeybeet!
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December 31st, 2009 at 10:11 am
For starters, it’s a double standard. Second, women can do significant damage if they hit the correct spot of the human body. Third, women can use weapons. It’s really not hard to figure out. And to your statement of men committing far more violence than women; well if you don’t see it as violence, your viewpoint will differ significantly compared to many others. Some say women do it just as much, others say women do it more than men. The thing is female aggression is far less likely to be reported or taken seriously when it is, which complicates research.
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December 31st, 2009 at 10:59 am
Look its all fair that men shouldn’t hit women however the whole "don’t hit girls" thing is an excuse for girls to hit men and not get hit back i’m all for equality and equal treatment but that doesn’t mean women can go around hitting us and not expect to get away with it just because they are a girl. And it isn’t exactly true that men commit more violence men just cause more damage go into a school or place where men and women interact and you’ll see women actually hit men more often whereas men more often push (which when non-violent isn’t dangerous at all) both ways may be friendly but in the end women get to possibly cause more damage. Now yes there are always the guys who go too far but they aren’t that common.
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December 31st, 2009 at 11:36 am
Yet a hit from a woman with a steel bat can cause quite a good deal of physical damage.
The point is, violence against another individual in inexcusable–no matter the gender. It should not be "don’t hit girls" but simply "don’t hit." Domestic violence should always be taken seriously, it shouldn’t matter if the attacker is male or female.
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December 31st, 2009 at 11:50 am
Some people will just refuse to take responsability for anything, and will look for excuses to do that thing. They are very well aware of what you explained there, they very well know it. One of these guys’ dark wishes is prolly beating the sh*t out of a woman, and they’re willing to go out of their way to look for valid excuses to do that. That includes them using emotional manipulation by making themselves appear as helpless victims. I’ve seen that on here a lot. Sure, it sucks when a man gets beaten by a woman, but it sucks getting beaten by anyone, for that matter, period. I don’t know why they focus on WOMEN. And I assume it’s prolly because of what I said earlier, or they actually met a bodybuilder woman that kicked their @ss before and now they’re all pissed. But seriously, I highly doubt anyone on THIS forum has ever had that happen to them for real. They’re on here to just be annoying.
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December 31st, 2009 at 12:27 pm
[Men commit far more violence against women than the other way around.]
Wrong..
http://www.ncfm.org/libraryfiles/Children/DV/Feminists%20Deny%20Truth%20on%20Domestic%20Violence.pdf
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
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December 31st, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Some one wrote "violence against another person is never right " I disagree…….sure I wouldn’t clock a woman ….unless she hit me first and you know, with an ashtray or something..then shes got it coming……..as far as man to man……when I was a kid they called it mutual combat and you didn’t go to jail for it…………..unless the other fella was dead.
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December 31st, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Women slapping men seems to be "culturally acceptable" now. Almost every soap or TV show has some b!tch slapping a man in the middle of a heightened argument and nothing happens. But woe be to the man if he makes that bloody-tampon-wearer feel the back of his hand as she deserves.
The law and the entire state suddenly becomes against him and it is immediately logged into "the records". The same one-sided "records" that stupid claims like "Men abuse women more" comes from.
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…and women still want more rights…LOL
December 31st, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Here’s another thing that’s not hard to figure out:
Taking something more seriously when a man does it than when a woman does it is a double standard. That might seem fair in your mind, but if you’re going to start justifying double standards because you have some reason for it, you also have to do the same for situations that are unfair to women.
Now you have to start saying things like "Well a woman is going to be in far more trouble if she gets pregnant than a man will, so it’s okay for men to sleep around but not women." Or "Babies are naturally more attached to their mothers, so of course it’s wrong for a woman to work when she has kids."
You see, any time you start making excuses for treating two people differently for committing the same exact crime, you’re going down a dangerous road, and you’re threatening to destroy all the progress we’ve made as a society over the past 50 years. Ultimately, all people need to be treated as individual people, and not man versus woman, or black versus white, etc. etc.
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December 31st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Some men have a victim complex and refuse to admit simple things.
Then again men probably attack other men more.
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December 31st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I agree that most of the time a man’s strength is more detrimental than a woman’s, if they don’t have a weapon. I don’t believe that it’s right to hit at all, but that’s a subjective question based on the readers education and what they have seen with their own two eyes. In my life, I’ve seen more women in the hospital because a man couldn’t stop beating her. I’ve actually only seen one man in the hospital from DV because his wife took a knife and defended herself after he had pulled a bald spot out of her hair and kicked her in the ribs. She required more stitches than he did. I have actually seen a man take his wife’s head, pull it down, and put his knee into it, simply because she wouldn’t let him drive drunk. I’ve also seen a man bash his wife’s head into the side of a truck when he was mad at a guy for telling him that his car wasn’t going to win the drag race that weekend. She was trying to sooth him because he was mad about it. However, after about 50+ women I have encountered who have been injured at the hands of a man, I finally became acquainted with a man who’s wife torture him and abused him physically, mentally, verbally since the day he knew her. They are divorced now, thank goodness, because he was raised not to hit a women, but boy did he want to.
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December 31st, 2009 at 3:20 pm
You said:
"Men commit far more violence against women than the other way around"
Wrong. The rate is about 50/50.
http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawreview/downloads/304/kelly.pdf
You said:
"Men are far physically stronger than women. A hit from a woman can barely cause any damage while a hit from a man could seriously hurt a woman. That’s why that whole "don’t hit girls" thing came from and that’s why man on woman violence is taken more seriously than woman on man violence. Its really not that hard to figure out"
True. There is a saying that lots of violent women can learn from: ‘Don’t start a fight if you can’t finish it’.
Here are a few facts that you might learn something from:
Research tells us:
"…when it comes to nonreciprocal violence between intimate partners, women are more often the perpetrators". In fact women were found to be the perpetrator 70.7% of the time. http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/conte…
Research tells us:
"Women [who hit their husband or boyfriend] stated that they expressed aggression toward their male partners in part because they wished to engage their partner’s attention, particularly emotionally. Also assaultive women did not believe that their male victims would be seriously injured or would retaliate”. "Deeper reasons endorsed for initiating aggressive behaviour" included "I believe if women truly are equal to men then women should be able to physically express anger at men" and "I feel personally empowered when I behave aggressively against my partner"
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/91293…
Domestic violence workers tell us:
“We have spoken to men who have been laid out with iron bars, had glass put in their food and been set upon with a knife… Discussion of violence towards men has long been regarded as a social taboo with victims offered little support, charities say” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk…
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December 31st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
so,are you saying that violence against men is okay? are you saying that women carrying weapons is not as serious as men fighting with fists? you’re pathetic.
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December 31st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
…Yawn….zzzZZZzzzZZZzzz….
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http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/womensviolence.html
December 31st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
It’s a double standard to say men are capable of greater damage than women and at the same time say women are equally able at physical jobs. Men commit more *reported* violence against women, but are discouraged from reporting abuse by a woman by social, and to some extent, legal standards.
Any violence is serious.
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December 31st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
"Why are men surprised violence against women is far more serious?"
Because it isn’t – only feminists pretend it is. Violence – ANY violence – is wrong.
"Men commit far more violence against women than the other way around. "
Wrong. D/V is roughly equal between men & women. In fact, lesbian relationships have the most D/V of all relationships. Children receive abuse primarily from women, not men.
"Men are far physically stronger than women."
True – but men usually limit themselves due to social & legal implications. Further, a weapon and the element of surprise equalizes any physical advantages men may have.
"A hit from a woman can barely cause any damage while a hit from a man could seriously hurt a woman. "
Wrong. Just wrong.
"That’s why that whole "don’t hit girls" thing came from and that’s why man on woman violence is taken more seriously than woman on man violence. Its really not that hard to figure out."
Wrong.
Using this logic, a woman abusing a child is considered equally wrong – yet women get away with it on a routine basis. Why don’t feminists fight to stop child abuse? Because they don’t want to – becaue that would affect women negatively… and their mission is to make women look superior, not equal.
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December 31st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
This is just blatantly silly. All violence against anyone is wrong..
Violence against children, women, men, even animals and pets is horrible altogether.
I find your views disturbing..
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December 31st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Your premise is completely wrong. Statistics show that women commit violence against men (in IPV situations) slightly more often than vice versa.
You must be new here.
@Arlo: Well put.
@Doodle: Your links are all pasted wrong. Please edit.
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December 31st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
….and yet feminists want equality. LOL What you just stated isn’t equality. By the way, men commit far more violence against other men than they do against women and women commit just as much violence against men. Funny how feminists pay no attention to little details.
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December 31st, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Quote "A hit from a woman can barely cause any damage " How ignorant of you.
Well then if that’s the case , why would a women strike a man bigger than she is for whatever the reason , when she clearly knows she would get her a$$ beat? Its really not that hard to figure out, right ?
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December 31st, 2009 at 7:34 pm
One way may be more common than the other, but they’re equally serious. Violence against another human being should never be tolerated.
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December 31st, 2009 at 8:08 pm
women are scrawny little things that make me laugh when they punch me for slapping their hineys.
truth is, the reason we don’t report all of their "violence" is because when they slap, kick, or punch us, they’re so small and weak that it’s laughable. they wind up hurting themselves before they hurt us!
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December 31st, 2009 at 8:57 pm
women engage in domestic violence about the same rate as men. women initiate or incite violence at a far greater rate than men. lesbian couples have much higher domestic violence rates than either straight hetero couples or gay men couples.
there is a huge double standard on this topic that should be debunked. if a guy is a total jerk, an abusive, insulting, nagging, bickering, argumentative, alcholic, combative, etc.. and behaves that way around other guys… it is fairly certain he will get his butt kicked eventually.. in fact, most guys learn this lesson in childhood, and don’t behave that way as adults.. unless they are puke drunk, which is why puke drunk guys often get thier butts kicked..
when a woman is a total jerk, an abusive, insulting, nagging, bickering, argumentative, alcholic, combative, etc…. she automatically is a poor victem of domestic violence by some terrible man???
after the disgusting experience of encountering abusive, stinking, loudmouth feminists… I am amazed that these women are still alive, that they have gone thru life with this attitude and have not come across someone who can not restrain themself under thier abusive combative attacks.. or that they don’t get thier butt kicked regularly.. it really is not logical that they even exist..
yeah, I learned about the ‘don’t hit girls’ thing as a child, but when I became a man, I put away my childish things…
this is what I learned from feminists. now I laugh at it when I see in on TV, and I now truely clearly understand why many women get beaten, .. mostly because they caused it.
yeah, I am surprised, mostly surprised that few people have the balls to tell the truth about domestic violence..
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