Feminists: Do you think society should focus on female-against-male domestic violence?
February 262010
This may surprise feminists, but according to a recent survey, women were found to be more likely to commit nonreciprocal domestic violence against their partner, than men.
View the graph:
http://antimisandry.com//vbnews/photos/phprG6h6v.gif
Do feminists think we should continue to ignore domestic violence that women commit against men? We still live in a world where men who are abused by their girlfriends and wives are not taken seriously, and are ridiculed. Feminists often do not take male abuse victims seriously.
This is yet another double-standard against men, that feminists willingly ignore. Why?
Rio Madeira: Canada has murders?
first of all i am a woman but not a feminist. i believe all forms of abuse (ie child, spousal whether male or female, animal and elder abuse) need to have a focus on them to raise awareness and seek resolution.
let me say this, when my husband and i first started dating, i would get mad at him for something hurtful he might have said, and not knowing how to deal with the hurt feelings i would lash out physically, (maybe hit him in the arm or something or get an overwhelming urge to throw something at him). i didn’t realize that type of reaction could have led me down a road of being abusive. i had an older brother and we fought like cats and dogs sometimes. throwing each other on the floor or up against a wall and hitting each other. it took me a little while to learn how to control my feelings of anger and pain and put those feelings into words. i am glad i recognized the problem before it became a real problem. mine wasn’t a problem of needing to dominate or make myself feel bigger or stonger, it was a problem of knowing how to deal with emotional pain. anyway, that is just from a woman’s perspective. no one should get abused, including men.
February 26th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
It should be considered but not focused on.
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February 26th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Domestic violence is a two-way street and what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Society used to look the other way but it’s beginning to wake up to the fact that women are just as capable of perpetrating violence as are men.
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February 26th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
It’s pointless. The feminist won’t accept the truth even if it smack them in the face. They’re just too narrow minded to see the truth.
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February 26th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
of course i think this should be focused on. violence within relationships is horrible. the problem is, and this goes for violence committed by both sexes, how do we fix it? aside from sweeping changes in the way people are socialized and the way they think, i have no idea what will change things.
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February 26th, 2010 at 10:31 pm
I doubt the veracity of anything on that website, but this is an important issue nevertheless. I don’t know that "society" should focus on it, but it should certainly be taken more seriously. Your statement that "feminists often do not take male abuse seriously" is not true. Domestic abuse is domestic abuse. Instead of waiting for US to do more, why don’t masculists themselves speak up and begin a campaign to educate male victims that this is NOT shameful and they will be taken seriously?
DON’T ignore this, but don’t hide behind our skirts either.
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February 26th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
if those femiNAZIS want equality; then why they are affraid to make DV as gender balanced.
why there r no laws to protect men;
as all men are not villians, they are victims too.
same all women are not victims, they r villains too.
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http://mynation.net
February 26th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Why don’t some of you get together and fight for those changes instead of sitting back and complaining about them? Things got changed for women because there were those who were willing to stand up and fight for them. They could have sat back and complained but they didn’t. Many of those women believed in their causes so much that they were willing to put up with the possible consequences of their activism such as public scorn, ridicule, and loss of careers and marriages. These are the women who are remembered today, not those who just put up with the abuse because they were afraid of what could happen to them if they spoke up.
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February 27th, 2010 at 12:30 am
Society should focus on domestic violence as a whole and forget about who commits it more.
But just so you know, 52% of murdered women in Canada were killed by a lover; compare that to 8% of murdered men.
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February 27th, 2010 at 1:08 am
Rio has a valid point.There is a reason men do not reciprocate. Women are terrible at committing violence; the raw murder statistics testify loudly to that.
I do not put much stock in self reports. They are a social science " tool. "
I looked at it, fool, and violence that is NOT RECIPROCATED is not reciprocated for a reason, moron below me.
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February 27th, 2010 at 1:57 am
first of all i am a woman but not a feminist. i believe all forms of abuse (ie child, spousal whether male or female, animal and elder abuse) need to have a focus on them to raise awareness and seek resolution.
let me say this, when my husband and i first started dating, i would get mad at him for something hurtful he might have said, and not knowing how to deal with the hurt feelings i would lash out physically, (maybe hit him in the arm or something or get an overwhelming urge to throw something at him). i didn’t realize that type of reaction could have led me down a road of being abusive. i had an older brother and we fought like cats and dogs sometimes. throwing each other on the floor or up against a wall and hitting each other. it took me a little while to learn how to control my feelings of anger and pain and put those feelings into words. i am glad i recognized the problem before it became a real problem. mine wasn’t a problem of needing to dominate or make myself feel bigger or stonger, it was a problem of knowing how to deal with emotional pain. anyway, that is just from a woman’s perspective. no one should get abused, including men.
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February 27th, 2010 at 2:32 am
http://www.dca.gov.uk/family/abfla/cvpapp5.htm
This is the British government’s view on how court welfare officers should approach domestic violence issues in the family court. (A court welfare officer is an officer of the court who will go out and interview the wife and husband at home and make a report for the court)
I hope this dispels the myth that the courts are impartial in their approach to family matters.
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6.1 FCWOs should be alert to the possibility of domestic violence even when it is not alleged. It is recommended that FCWOs use a ’screening schedule’ (examples to follow), which will facilitate disclosure of domestic violence, in their work. FCWS staff should be aware of the effects of domestic violence on children and the correlation of domestic violence and child abuse.
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8.2 Where domestic violence is thought to be present the FCWOs should plan with the District Judge/Court Clerk how the directions appointment is to be handled. The safety of the woman and the children must be secured.
8.3 Where the survivor is unrepresented it is particularly important for the FCWO to see her first. The FCWO should explain what will take place and check that the woman has knowledge of information and resources to make herself and her dependants safe. She should be advised to seek legal representation and advice.
8.4 It is not generally appropriate in these circumstances to see the parties together or to attempt conflict-resolution, whether on a privileged or non-privileged basis. Referral for medication is not generally appropriate. There will, however, be occasions when the woman concerned states a preference for a joint meeting; in such circumstances her preference should be acknowledged and acted upon.
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9.1 Where an FCWO has been in court at the time a court welfare report is ordered, she/he should ensure that information regarding domestic violence reaches the office/unit responsible for allocation, alongside the court order. They will always take note of:
* Allegations of and convictions for violence by either party.
* Injunctions and other court orders issued in proceedings between the parties which stem from allegations of violence.
* Objections to joint interviews.
* Non-disclosure of addresses.
Other Directions Hearings
FCWOs should recognise that they are able and have a responsibility to return matters to court for further directions, where orders or arrangements appear to place women and/or their dependants at risk.
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12. Interviews
12.1 FCWOs should ensure that women know that they have the choice to be seen on their own and without detriment to their case. (National Standards 4.12 and 4.13). Where domestic violence is present, managers should give due consideration to who will carry out the interviews with the woman; generally it will be more appropriate for a female FCWO to undertake the task. Where the FCWOs work in pairs there should never be a pairing of two males working on the case. FCWOs should consider whether it might be helpful for the woman to bring a supporter to the interview with them. Where a supporter is in attendance, the FCWO should have due regard to the confidential nature of information discussed and ensure that those present at the interview are apprised of issues relating to confidentiality. They should also be aware of how the presence of a supporter is likely to affect the overall management of the particular case.
12.2 If a joint interview is agreed by the parties, it should be planned with regard to the safety of the woman eg who to invite; timing of arrival; separate rooms for waiting; supporter (friend, relative, Woman’s Aid worker); woman to leave premises safely; coping strategies should violence erupt. Gender and cultural implications should be considered as an integral part of the planning process.
12.3 Home visits should be planned with the same degree of forethought and consideration of risk. Information about duration and location of home visit should be left with the Service.
12.4 FCWOs need to be familiar with dynamics which often flow from domestic abuse:
* Woman internalises negative views of self as mother.
* Intimidation results in only partial information about mother’s arrangements for children.
* Reluctance to disclose future arrangements through fear of abuse or threats.
12.5 Generally questions should be framed in a way which allows women to reveal the presence of violence or threat.
13. Refuges and Other Resources
13.1 FCWOs should beware viewing a woman’s proposed arrangements less favourably if she is living in a refuge, as this is likely to be her first step towards protecting herself and her dependants.
13.2 FCWOs should have knowledge of supports for those subject to domestic violence and help women to gain access to them.
14. Perpetrators
14.1 Wherever possible, FCWOs should discuss the nature of their violence, their attitudes to women and children with perpetrators and the effect on women, as this will be central to an assessment of the case.
14.2 Referral to an appropriate agency (where available) should be offered and followed up.
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http://www.dca.gov.uk/family/abfla/cvpapp5.htm
February 27th, 2010 at 3:22 am
Society should focus on both female-against-male and male-against-female domestic violence equally. Domestic violence of any kind, whether committed by man or woman, should never be ignored.
The reason why more attention is given to male-against-female domestic violence is that men are generally stronger than women and thus likely to cause more serious injury. Men often have the physical strength to defend themselves whereas women are often not strong enough to defend themselves against men.
One thing I don’t get is…why do men who claim to be abused (either verbally or physically) often stay in the relationship?
I think a lot of these guys who are in abusive relationships are wimps for staying. Then they often do not report it to the authorities. How do they expect society to do anything about it?
Here’s a question for you: what would you do if a woman slaps you in the face? Would you reciprocate or simply take it?
Also, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rON7EeT0Nxg
You get the idea of the kind of public service announcements there is about domestic violence.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rON7EeT0Nxg
February 27th, 2010 at 3:32 am
You as a masculinist should gather your troops and address the issue. Women and feminists did for their target group. Instead of constantly whining do something. You go on and on about the same subject and do not address it. Feminist are aware of domestic violence but they target females because that is the focus. Black groups target black issues, gays target gays and nobody else whines like you males do. Get a life.
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February 27th, 2010 at 4:16 am
Domestic violence against men should not be ignored.
Baba Yaga, RoVale, and The Ms are right. Masculinists should stop whining to feminists and actually do something about it.
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February 27th, 2010 at 4:24 am
No battery, no assault, should be ignored, regardless of the gender of the perpetrator. Yes, women are violent, in their own way, but with respect to all domestic violence, women sustain serious injuries a lot more than men. That’s why the cops typically take the man away. And guys, if you think this is some kind of victory for the women that men are arrested more for dv, or that women have almost all the dv shelters and assistance, put yourself in their shoes — an entire gender is generally bigger than they are and more likely to inflict serious injuries. (That’s not to say women shouldn’t be punished for their less physically damaging batteries.)
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